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Posted by alpha male on July 10, 19101 at 14:00:13:
anyone want to discuss identity or what makes one conscious? here's something to think about. one's place in space and time is part of identity/consciousness. if you somehow "skip" a moment, do you lose your identity or your consciousness or are they even the same thing? an illusttration of this is the star trek teleporter. they perfectly annihilate the person, then they recreate the person at a different point in space and time. but is it the same person or did they just kill the first person and make a copy, which is fine from a third person perspective but in the first person, I wouldn't want to die just so that a copy of me could go on and complete my mission, or is it the recreation of the will (mission) which continues the consciousness of the previously destroyed me. the illogic of the teleporter can be seen in the fact that they could have recreated a copy of me without ever having annihilated the first me, then certainly I wouldn't think the recreated person to be a continuation of my consciousness because my consciousness never stopped in the first place. If the universe is an interconnected whole (connected by causualty and unversal laws) and time and causualty are real aspects of the universe and not just modes of perceptions whose natures are other than those aspects of them which we are able to comprehend, then my identity includes the whole universe because if some the sun were not where is then I would not be who I am. anyhow someone respond who is at least as intelligent as I am or more intelligent. I don't wanna hear about how at church God filled you up and you felt at one. if you have never heard of immanuel kant, do not respond.