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: I live in the former communist country, so I probably know more about communism and how it works. : In the manifesto of the communist party written by Marx and Engels, what is the basis of any communism, it is written that "In bourgeois society, capital is independent and has individuality, while the living person is dependent and has no individuality", i.e. they deny any individuality except perhaps bourgeois. But there is also written that "The abolition of bourgeois individuality, bourgeois independence, and bourgeois freedom is undoubtedly aimed at", so even that would be abolished and nowhere they offer any other individuality for compensation. : When there is no individuality then the only alternative is collectivism, i.e. the individual have to put his interests below the collective interests (in the communist literature it is also said that individual knowingly have to unite his interests with collective interests, what is even worse because no intersets would be left what may be in conflict with collective interests) and this requirement is unconditional. This principle is frequently written in the communist literature aimed to "educate" people but interestingly there is nowhere a reference to the source. So this is probably their "big secret" and because of that I did show how it can be derived from their basic doents. In fact no society who don't respect individuality cannot manage without a principle of collectivism. : Unfortunately a lot of people who want to join the army etc. accept the principle of collectivism. But as the collective interests always have to be preferred to individual ones (if they can exist at all), there is no way how they can be formed from individual interests. And because of that the principle of collectivism justifies killing - if it is collective interest, then it have to be done and any humane or religious considerations have only secondary importance. There are a lot of other ideologies similar and not on anyway better than communism. They can be called any "isms" and can be even against communism. For example the propaganda minister of Germany Gobbels said: "To be a socialist is to submit the I to the thou; socialism is sacrificing the individual to the whole.", so as you see this is almost the same. : But in fact it is not important whether the supportes of such ideology kill or not. The most important is that the principle of collectivism is extremely immoral and *can* justify killing, so as far there are supporters of such principle the wars, killing, communism, fascism, totalitarism, etc. cannot be excluded. So we have to do everything to explain the inhumanity of the principle of collectivism, otherwise there is always a threat of communism and other similar systems what are based on that principles. Also sometimes supporting some of such systems can be justified even by humane reasons, as far as there are such systems there are these who support them and there is no reason why *you* have to have a deal with these systems. : They can also say that collectivism is necessary in order to be organized but this, keeping the agreements etc. has nothing to do with surpressing all your interests. : Man is not happy alone, man is happy as a part of society, this is why collectivism is more proper than individualism in order to be happy, what a satanic (=atheistic system's) statement, isn't it? : Let's start the change!!!

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