Author: Raphael (---.nas9.cedar-rapids1.ia.us.da.qwest.ne)
Date: 05-05-06 13:04
mutt wrote:
> {snipped}
>
> > > > Christianity as we know it is a myth perpetrated
> > > > by the Holy Roman Empire who(sic) co-opted
> > > > Christ's teachings in the 3rd century in order to
> > > > stem an uprising among the growing number
> > > > Christians in Rome at the time by merging it
> > > > with the ruling religion of the time Sun Worship,
> > > > or Mithras.
> > >
> > > What nonsense you spew, matt!!
> > >
> > > Do you get all of your history
> > > from such fictional sources as
> > > The DaVinci Code or some
> > > spurious gnostic text?
> > > What a sot you are!
> > >
> > > The books of the Bible had been in use
> > > throughout Christendom, by all the bishops
> > > for more than three centuries before Eusebius,
> > > and in the Patriarchies of Alexandria,
> > > Jerusalem, Antioch, and Constantinople
> > > as well as in Rome. The Orthodox church
> > > NEVER was in subjection to the bishop of
> > > Rome, and its observations of Christmas
> > > and Easter put a lie to your nonsense.
> > >
> > > You say:
> > >
> > > > This is why Christians worship on SUNday
> > > > not Saturday as was customary at the time. This is
> > > > also how we got the story of Jesus' birth -- Dec 25,
> > > > fleeing on an @!#$, the star, 3 wise men -- all
> > > > from Roman and Egypt
> > > > Myths. Christian might as well be worshiping Ra and
> > > > Osiris.
> > >
> > > R: YOU might as well be worshipping Ra or Osiris,
> > > or Isis, or Sophia, or Lilith because, for sure,
> > > you are not worshipping Christ Jesus.
> > >
> > > You, matt, are not even in sheep’s clothing;
> > > you are just a plain, simple charlatan.
> > >
> > > But, there is no way for you to fool God.
> > >
> > > Raphael
> >
> > Mindy, I have done more reading of the subject of
> > Christianity than I care to admit.
> >
> > Poor “matt”!
> >
> > You could read everything
> > ever inspired by the devil
> > about Christianity, and you
> > would not have wasted any more time
> > than you already have!!
> >
> > You say:
> >
> > > I was a Catholic - not that that is important,
> > > but it is just as viable a belief as yours.
> >
> > R: Ah, so! A fallen-away, unsaved Catholic.
> > No doubt hell holds very many of them,
> > right beside the atheist popes of history.
> >
> > You say:
> >
> > > DaVinci Code has misrepresented the facts of the
> > > formation of Christianity due to artistic license.
> >
> > R: Well, duh... we call that
> > lying and deception, “matt”,
> > when the people doing it know that they are lying.
> >
> > (John 8:43-45): “Why do you not understand
> > My speech? Because you are not able
> > to listen to My word. You are of your father
> > the devil, and the desires of your father
> > you want to do. He was a murderer
> > from the beginning, and does not stand
> > in the truth, because there is no truth in him.
> > When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his
> > own resources, for he is a liar and
> > the father of it. But because I tell the truth,
> > you do not believe Me.”
> >
> > You say:
> >
> > > My sources, however, are credible and non-fiction.
> >
> > R: If your sources were credible,
> > then you would know the Truth,
> > but you obviously do not.
> >
> > You say:
> >
> > > I read everything, Gnostic scrolls, Torah, Koran,
> > > and theoligical(sic) studies.
> >
> > R: How pathetic you are, “matt”!
> > In the very same breath, you contradict yourself,
> > and show that your so-called “credible” sources
> > are completely spurious! Do you even know
> > who Abdullah Ibn Sa'd Ibn Abi Sarh was?
> > Unless your claim to have read “All” my writings
> > is just another in your litany of lies, you should know.
> >
> > You say:
> >
> > > Do you? Or just the bible and Christian science?
> > > If so that is not a circumspect(sic) view.
> >
> > R: Nothing looks more silly than
> > an uneducated, spiritually-blind person
> > telling an intelligent, educated Christian
> > that (s)he is narrow-minded.
> >
> > It is time for you to repent, “matt”,
> > to come clean, and to heed Christ Jesus.
> >
> > Raphael
>
> You are the spurious one with your perverted interpretations
> of the bible.
An academic you are not, mutt! At least you should get yourself a dictionary.
By the way, you still have not answered my repeated question as to whether English is your native language.
You say:
>
> You don't think that scibes(sic) back in Christs(sic)
> day and afterword(sic) used poetic license?
R: Wow, mutt! Are “scibes” anything like scabs? It appears that you, like the madman muhammad, need to get yourself a scribe.
You already have made abundantly clear, “matt”, that you don’t know squat about history in general but, most crucially, you know nothing of church history, nor of God.
Unlike the madman muhammad who was totally illiterate (could neither read nor write) such was not the case for Apostle Luke, the physician, who wrote his Gospel exactly like a legal brief that could have stood in any Roman court. Nor, does your silly, extraneous remark apply to Apostle Paul, the former Pharisee, who was fluent in Hebrew and Greek, and who wrote virtually all of his epistles himself, except when he was chained to the wall, and even then, he read every word that was sent to the recipients of his epistles.
But, most importantly, “matt”, you have established beyond any shadow of doubt that you are spiritually dead. You do not have the Holy Spirit, and you do not know the living Word of God. You do not believe God nor know His power.
You say:
>
> How naive?
R: How blind you are, mutt!
You say:
>
> From the moment Jesus was dead and risen
> his word was subject to interpretion(sic) like(sic)
> Mohammed too.
R: Nevermind that my words have gone in your one ear and right straight out the other, God’s Word has fallen on your deaf ears.
REPEAT: (John 16:13-15): “When He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.”
You say:
>
> > You deride Catholicism, but they were responisble(sic)
> > for the cannonizing(sic) the same gospels
> > that you've committed to memory and take literally.
R: Until you make the slightest little effort to study history, mutt, and to stop relying on spurious, gnostic texts (and such fictions as DaVinci Code) for your information, you will remain in the profound ignorance that you strut here for all to see.
Start by studying exactly who Eusebius was, and how he went about producing his 50 Bibles for Emperor Constantine.
You say:
>
> You don't ever quote the gospels according to Philip, James,
> Magdalene, Judas or other - proof that your faction of
> Christianity is in keeping on scripture with the Roman Church.
R: An academic you are not, “matt”!
Neither do I quote the “gospel of Dan Brown” which was produced out of the imagination of a non-Christian two millennia after Christ’s Advent. The same exact reasons pertain.
Do you really believe that Judas wrote the so-called “Gospel of Judas” two centuries after his death? Chuckle, chuckle... you really are a knucklehead, mutt.
And why, “matt”, don’t you say that I am “in keeping on scripture” with the Orthodox church or the Coptic Church? Is it because you know so little of history that you know too little to know how little you know? (That’s a rhetorical question! Look that up in your dictionary when you finally get one.)
You say:
>
> > It figures that you, a Born Again, would pick Sarh to prove
> > your point on Islam -- how easy is that for you?
R: My point was not about islam, “matt”, it was about your ignorance.
You say:
>
> All religions are loaded with traitors . For your anwser(sic)
> Sarh - their form of Judas - was a scribe of Mohammed who fell away
> from Islam for allowing Allah's word to be corrupted.
> Mohammed had him killed for it. Muslims simply say he was an
> infidel deserving death FOR corrupting Allah's word.
R: I see that you spent your absence from S&R Chat to go look up Sarh. But, you have misstated the facts, mutt. (For example, contrary to what you say here, the madman muhammad did not kill him any more than the people who put a death sentence on Salman Rushdie killed him. By the way, do you know who Rushdie is?) You need to go research more reliable sources, “matt”. The devil is totally unreliable, chuckle, chuckle...
You say:
>
> Like Sarh, I fell away too due to(sic) inconsist(sic) bible passages
> and sermonizing.
R: Go read what Sarh actually says about why he fled from the madman muhammad. Then, you will see that there is no parallel whatsoever between you and him.
You say:
>
> Faith? Prostelatized(sic) by men (Priests and
> those like you, Raphy) as flawed as you I? Yes, Raphy, you
> have your flaws too. Sorry, to burst your bubble. Hope your
> vanity can withstand that.
R: Ah but, mutt, Christ Jesus is flawless. And, it is because of His righteousness, not mine, that I will spend eternity in Heaven.
You say:
>
> As for repenting, save it for Tom
> Cruise. Why don't you repent for your own hypocracy(sic)
> and contempt of others instead?
R: Tom Cruise? You are not condemned to hell for his sin, mutt, but for your own. It is your sin that condemns you to hell your very own sin.
God has such contempt for sin that He will not allow you into Heaven with it.
REPEAT:
It is time for you to repent, “matt”,
to come clean, and to heed Christ Jesus.
Raphael
http://killdevilhill.com/phorum/read.php?f=143&i=10395&t=9205
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