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Posted by Eden of Mind on May 10, 19100 at 06:49:49:
In Reply to: Re: Sacred Ground posted by Torc on May 09, 19100 at 03:09:36:
I think that you did not notice, possibly because they are further down the discussion, my somewhat recent responses to you. If you did, then you are simply ignoring them. That would be unfortunate. If you would like an answer to a few of the mistakes that you frequently make in your arguments, they can be found there.
I find it strange and, admittedly, a bit humorous, that you often require a double standard from creationists. You deride us in your responses: "It is a shame that you and ALL 'scientific creationists' employ the same tactic. You try to identify weaknesses or commonly disputed hot-points in darwinian gradualism and then attack with full force."
I had no idea that this was a practice to be avoided. Of course, if you think about it, you will understand that, even were we to simply state our case while you stated yours, neither mentioning the other, this would still cause conflict. Only one of us can be correct. Be realistic! You often attack creationists and when you cannot attack scientific creationism, you attack the Bible. Beside the fact that not all creationists are Christian, it is foolish for you to wail about your opponents "tactic" of pointing out the holes in your belief system.
By the way, I appreciate your candor in admitting that evolution has its "weaknesses." This is a step in the right direction.
However, I cannot promise to fulfill your request. Where would this leave the individual who is not religious but who has problems with evolution?
I would ask you to again describe what proof of GOD's existence would look like. The first time you did this, you unwittingly gave criteria which the life of Christ fulfilled. Remember, this "proof" must be something for which we cannot give an alternate natural explanation.
Eden of Mind.
: Eden:
: I'm at work right now so this will be brief. Your novel length post makes it abundantly clear that you are devoting a good deal of energy to suporting your conclusion that creationism is the true cause of everything.
: It is a shame that you and ALL "scientific creationists" employ the same tactic. You try to identify weaknesses or commonly disputed hot-points in darwinian gradualism and then attack with full force.
: Make your fellow creationists proud and support creationism as opposed to attempting to refute that which you clearly don't understand.
: Show us the proof for your deity...and lets not hear the word "Bible." Please provide evidence, or at least the facts that convinced you that there is a deity. The word "faith" shouldn't come up either as faith is only needed in situations where facts are absent.
: It is exhausting to have to go back and forth debating the principles of evolution and never address creationist theory.
: Torc out.