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XI



As fast as thou shalt wane, so fast thou grow\'st,

In one of thine, from that which thou departest;

And that fresh blood which youngly thou bestow\'st,

Thou mayst call thine when thou from youth convertest,

Herein lives wisdom, beauty, and increase;

Without this folly, age, and cold decay:

If all were minded so, the times should cease

And threescore year would make the world away.

Let those whom nature hath not made for store,

Harsh, featureless, and rude, barrenly perish:

Look, whom she best endow\'d, she gave thee more;

Which bounteous gift thou shouldst in bounty cherish:

  She carv\'d thee for her seal, and meant thereby,

  Thou shouldst print more, not let that copy die.

 	--William Shakespeare

Nature is not only all that is visible to the eye -- it also
includes the inner pictures of the soul.
Edvard Munch

I will stand on, and continue to use, the figures I have used, because I
believe they are correct. Now, I\'m not going to deny that you don\'t now
and then slip up on something; no one bats a thousand.
Ronald Reagan