The former post was off topic and was removed as it was a violation of our
Great Books spirit.

These forums are being phased out & replaced. Join us at our new
registration-only forums at:

jollyrogerwest.com Great Books forums,
Philosophy Forums,
and booksliterature.com Great Books forums.

Please respect that these are Great Books sites. We far prefer
discussions along the following
lines:

They say marriages are made in Heaven. But so is thunder and lightning.
Clint Eastwood


If you\'ve seen one redwood, you\'ve seen them all.
Ronald Reagan

CXX



That you were once unkind befriends me now,

And for that sorrow, which I then did feel,

Needs must I under my transgression bow,

Unless my nerves were brass or hammer\'d steel.

For if you were by my unkindness shaken,

As I by yours, you\'ve pass\'d a hell of time;

And I, a tyrant, have no leisure taken

To weigh how once I suffer\'d in your crime.

O! that our night of woe might have remember\'d

My deepest sense, how hard true sorrow hits,

And soon to you, as you to me, then tender\'d

The humble salve, which wounded bosoms fits!

  But that your trespass now becomes a fee;

  Mine ransoms yours, and yours must ransom me.

 	--William Shakespeare

It ends not with a bang, but a whimper.
T. S. Eliot