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Posted by Peregrine Guardian on August 17, 19100 at 23:22:54:
In Reply to: Re: Humor Among Your Many Talents... posted by Anne Rind on August 17, 19100 at 21:48:56:
Genesis:
3:22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
3:23Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
Again, you do not understand the ideas behind these verses... Again, God said that man had become "as one of us," in the matter of the knowledge of good and evil only.
In choosing the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, man took upon himself knowledge that he could not cope with. The knowledge of evil, granted in the act of disobeying, corrupts. In eating the fruit, Adam and Eve were separated from their rightful place which was designed by God. In their independence, they became corrupt because the Lord did not create them to be apart from Him. Indeed, He creates nothing which is not at the same time dependent upon Him.
In separation from God, death (spiritual) did enter into the world. With this spiritual death comes corruption of the flesh (aging). When God said that man must not be allowed to eat of the Tree of Life, He did not mean that man must be kept from becoming "as gods."
First of all, you again ignore the words of the serpent which explained the they would become "as gods" if they ate of the first tree. They became "as gods" in the respect of knowledge of good and evil, but they certainly would not have become perfect. No where is this even implied.
Second, the purpose of keeping man from the Tree of Life was to keep him from living immortally in the state that he was in. That is to say, the plan of God-- to bring man back to Himself through the sacrifice of the Son-- was already underway. Man was now "abnormal," and only the sacrifice of that "incorruptible seed" could bring him back to a place of harmony with the Lord. If not...
...then man might eat of the Tree of Life and remain as a kind of undead; a horrible state in which he was spiritually dead but physically immortal. Eating of the Tree of Life would have been a curse, not a triumph. That act of God was an act of love...
":Furthermore, how is it that the creature can become "perfect" when the very idea of "becoming perfect" is a contradiction in terms...
I don't understand this question."
I say this, not out of disrespect, but out of an honest desire to help... If you do not understand the question then you do not understand the nature of perfection. It is a huge topic, one which is, perhaps, not fitting on this board, especially considering that you likely do not respect the teaching of Scripture. If you want to discuss it, then we can take up the discussion by email...