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Posted by Captain Brazil on August 04, 19100 at 00:47:18:
In Reply to: And one more thing..... posted by Bruce on August 03, 19100 at 06:48:22:
I beg to differ.
The birth of humanism took place in Italy, where the Renaissance period gained full force around the 1400's. The father of the Renaissance movement was perhaps Petrach (some would argue Boccacio).
Historically it started in Florence with the rivalry of the neri (or blacks) that formed the aristocratic party and the middle-cl bianchi (whites). The neri held on to the middle age beliefs and paradigms which included feudal economy and power to the church, while the bianchi were the burgeoisy, the fulll capitalists that were still Christians but in a much more human centered way.
The Renaissance movement did spread north but it was never as intense as it was in Italy and latin Europe in general. Florence was the crowned city of the humanist/Renaissance era. The first men who turned their pions towards the clics were Florentine: Brunellesco, Lorenzo il Magnifico (among other Medicis), and scholars like Salutati, Trversari, Bruni and Valla, not to mentione dhte most famous Renaissance man Leonardo.
Finally, after a dark period of a thousand years, men started doubting and challenging the dogmas of the church. "They turned from religion to philosophy, from heaven to earth." (Will Durant) These "um,anisti" studied the clic culture of humanity. And this movement was absolutely created, geared and and kept by the new cl, the captalist burgeoise!
Regards,
CB