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my victory is at hand, once Bill realizes how long it has been since anyone besides the two of us have posted here (even smb and Elaia have been me for quite some time), he is sure to go through with the 'closed correspondence', and I will have cleared out all of the regulars here, the board will be mine!...the hammer has shattered so much already, and the revaluation is well under way...I have created so much, just one mosquito with an over-inflated ego left (have you ever tried killing a mosquito with a hammer!)...this is all my creation, and I will tell any newcomers that I am also Bill, arguing with myself, soon I will start posting under the name 'Bill', and if I end up alone here, I wouldn't expect anyone to do my intellect justice anyway... - Jeremy (nt) 20:37:20 7/04/101 (1)
- exiled from the Land of Pastor Bill - Deportable Correspondent 14:09:22 10/11/101 (0)
this format does not do me justice... - ...for in person my beautiful, ruggedly handsome face ensures my victory in any argument on any subject (nt) 19:47:33 7/04/101 (0)
BGE Book Study;sections 1-10;The Philosopher of the Future. - Bill 12:04:43 7/04/101 (0)
"if we could communicate with the mosquito, then we would learn that it floats through the air with the same self-importance, feeling within itself the flying center of the world. There is nothing in nature so deable or insignificant that it cannot immediately be n up like a bag by a slight breath of this power of knowledge; and just as every porter wants an admirer, the proudest human being, the philosopher, thinks that he sees the eyes of the universe telescopically focused from all sides on his actions and thoughts" - Nietzsche on the idea that 'man is the measure'orBill the mosquito 22:17:58 7/03/101 (5)
- You don't seem to realise that the Superman will be a new SPECIES;as removed from man as the mosquito is from the ape and the ape is from man;therefore the Superman will have his own brand of truth.[I am no longer going to persue these nameless posts] {n/t} - Bill 08:30:23 7/04/101 (4)
  - the mosquito is different from from the ape which is different from man which is different from overman...they all have the same 'self-importance', and even if the overman were different, it would be because he would think he ISN'T the measure of things NT - Amanda 19:28:59 7/04/101 (3)
    - to make it clear, "there is NOTHING IN NATURE...[that] cannot immediately be n up like a bag by a slight breath of this power of knowledge"...and as much as the overman is a different species, he is a species, and a part of nature,,, - Friedrich Nietzsche (nt) 20:14:54 7/04/101 (2)
      - and to make it painfully clear, the "haughtiness which goes with knowledge...deceives [man] about the value of existence by carrying in itself the most flattering evaluation of knowledge itself. Its most universal effect is deception; but even its most particular effects have something of the same character"...and any 'knowledge' of the overman faces the same problem if it claims to have a capacity for objective and universal validation...but the overman knows better...you do not! - Friedrich Nietzsche (nt) 20:21:48 7/04/101 (1)
        
        Re: and to make it painfully clear, the "haughtiness which goes with knowledge...deceives [man] about the value of existence by carrying in itself the most flattering evaluation of knowledge itself. Its most universal effect is deception; but even its most particular effects have something of the same character"...and any 'knowledge' of the overman faces the same problem if it claims to have a capacity for objective and universal validation...but the overman knows better...you do not! - habo 00:43:22 11/12/101 (0)
"truths are illusions about which one has forgotten that this is what they are...to be truthful means using the customary metaphors...in moral terms: the obligation to lie according to a fixed convention, to lie herd-like in a style obligatory for all" FWN - truth IS a lie, if you disagree would you please refute Nietszsche and explain what truth is (and why your explanation isn't a lie in favor of the HERD!!) NT 16:33:22 7/03/101 (18)
- Just as there are two types of morality,so there are two types of truth.The truth that is quoted is equivalent to Slave morality;the truth he speaks about when he says-"Truth is HARD!",is equivalent to Master morality.This kind of truth is typified by the Will to Power and the Eternal Recurrence.I explained all this at length in my posts on BGE 1-4,which you haven't read PROPERLY (have you EVER read ANYTHING properly?).(n/t) - Bill 18:38:57 7/03/101 (6)
  - this 'master morality' truth is something like perspectivism...'these are MY truths'... - but do you still think we can still have some kind of objectively verifiable or scientific truth [absolute truth]?...believing this false objectivity is still a sign of weakness NT 19:11:00 7/03/101 (5)
    - In the Nietzsche essay you quote,it goes on to say "man [i.e., not the Superman] needs protection.For there are awful powers which continually press upon him,powers which oppose 'truths' of knowledge [wissenschaft] with completely different kinds of 'truth'".It is these latter truths which can be borne by the Superman.And yes,of course,'perspectivism' is a central tenet of Nietzsche's philosophy-even you should know that! [n/t] - Bill 08:42:19 7/04/101 (1)
      - these latter truths are those of perspectivism, and should not be naively mistaken for having a possibilty of transcendent or objective absolute-ness (again, which is dangerously theological)nt - Susan 19:32:39 7/04/101 (0)
    - p.s. - I have not read your post(s) on BGE 1-4 at all....and that is exactly how they should properly be read! NT 22:08:28 7/03/101 (2)
      - And you haven't read BGE itself either {or did you say you had glanced at its empty margins} [text inside] - Bill 08:35:00 7/04/101 (1)
        
        you would have done better to focus on the margins, after all, no understanding of the text is better than this gross MISunderstanding... - Friedrich Nietzsche (nt) 20:25:07 7/04/101 (0)
- ahhhh... - so absolute truth is the way a member of the herd feigns superiority....by more thoroughly lying to himself!!! NT 16:36:53 7/03/101 (10)
  - I have never used the terms 'absolute truth',or 'universal truth' with approbation.I have tried to describe the sort of SUPRA-HUMAN truth which typifies the Will to Power.If you can't see that BASIC distinction then you are not one for philosophy. - Bill 18:43:36 7/03/101 (9)
    - 'objective' and 'absolute' truth are another way of saying truths that are objectively verifiable in a final scientific sense... - ...which you still seem to think are possible [and Nietzsche would disagree with you] NT 19:19:37 7/03/101 (8)
      - The term used by Nietzsche which is usually translated as 'science' is German 'Wissenschaft'.It's meaning is far broader than our science-in fact Nietzsche regarded Philology as 'Wissenschaft'.Nietzsche's book 'Die frohliche Wissenschaft' is better translated as 'The Joyful Wisdom',than the cringe-making 'Gay Science' as given currency by Kaufmann.Due to the mistranslation you seem to have got hung up on 'science'.What is meant in Nietzsche is broadly speaking 'wisdom'--although judging by your rampant Philistinism,you would have a problem with wisdom itself![n/t] - Bill 08:51:17 7/04/101 (1)
        
        I have no problem with wisdom, just the possibility of knowledge in the traditional sense, where you see knowledge as boundless, Nietzsche shows that wisdom puts bounds even on knowledge (nt) - Elizabeth 19:36:52 7/04/101 (0)
      - p.s.... - I'm too good for philosophy, too affirming, too joyous, too creative for its limiting paradigms...I take a hammer to philosophy, that is how I love MY wisdom! nt 19:24:26 7/03/101 (5)
        
        You are like [moral] truth in that you are a WOMAN.And hell hath no fury like a woman scorned! - Bill 08:53:33 7/04/101 (4)
        
        It pleases me so much that you see the hellish 'fury' in my attacks against you... - ...and it pleases me even more that while you imagine that I am furious, I am actually laughing hysterically at your inanity (nt) 19:40:31 7/04/101 (0)
        
        Here endeth the exchanges with the woman with no name,[wait for it!];THIS CORRESPONDENCE IS CLOSED. [n/t] - Bill 08:55:20 7/04/101 (2)
        
        and here is the name of this woman... - TRUTH!!!!! (nt) 19:41:55 7/04/101 (1)
        
        and I already see your charges of hypocrisy..."but you don't believe in truth"... - ...while it is simply that I don't believe in YOUR degenerate 'truth' NT 19:43:23 7/04/101 (0)
Primer:Nietzsche as Luther; 18 Theses. - Bill 08:27:15 7/02/101 (1)
- Dictat;Bill has just given me this Order to p-on;he will "not enter into any correspondence with Chandala who are not even able to enter a proper name into the box marked 'name'". By Order. - Commander Merlin 08:58:26 7/02/101 (0)
Objection! - Elaia 07:35:16 7/02/101 (0)
I used to love this place but... - Jeremy on why I did all those annoying posts 18:10:48 7/01/101 (0)
someone's got waaaaaaaay to much time on their hands... - ...unless this crap actually has a POINT! (nt) 16:01:03 7/01/101 (1)
- it at least seems like a rather dull point at that - Elaia 16:02:25 7/01/101 (0)
posting antics - fred lover 23:59:34 6/30/101 (13)
- Re: posting antics - Bill 12:51:07 7/01/101 (12)
  - Re: posting antics - Teressa 13:09:27 7/01/101 (11)
    - Yes,these repetitious chandala merely prove that S rises to the top;a pox on all their louses! - Bill 13:14:02 7/01/101 (10)
      - "They have no culture" - Bill 09:45:43 7/02/101 (5)
        
        yeah but... - Jeremy 17:55:47 7/02/101 (4)
        
        This Correspondence REMAINS Closed! - Bill 00:21:31 7/03/101 (3)
        
        to say it again, you never know to exclude me from your 'inter pares' unless I put my name on a post... - ...or is it that my objections are so often fatal to your points that you cannot help resond? NT 16:39:49 7/03/101 (1)
        
        and your lack of response to my points in 'yeah, but...' show that while you cannot affirm what I say, neither can you deny it... - ...you cannot say yes and you cannot say no, instead you run to a feigned nobility NT 16:44:02 7/03/101 (0)
        
        A Moment of Silence Please! - Bill 08:50:08 7/03/101 (0)
      - I think the origin of the long posts was an annoyance with our long posts... - ...heaven forbid we discuss Nietzsche in an intellectual manner (nt) 13:17:17 7/01/101 (3)
        
        speaking of which... - ...why not continue up here? below I posted a summary of my latest round of points, but it was buried in the pointless annoyance, so let us continue our point-ful annoyance (nt) 13:26:58 7/01/101 (2)
        
        Re: speaking of which... - Mayurocrates 18:27:00 7/02/101 (1)
        
        not exactly meaningless... - ...just metaphorical play things 19:45:58 7/02/101 (0)
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hey a-hole, I did the lovehate's, and I did the goodevil's too... - smb (text included) 23:40:00 6/30/101 (1)
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goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevilgoodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevilgoodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevilgoodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevilgoodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevilgoodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevilgoodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil - goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevilgoodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevilgoodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevilgoodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevilgoodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevilgoodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevilgoodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil goodevil 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hey Bill, why don't we continue our discussion(s) here at the top of the page... - ...it might annoy some, but at least our posts will be easier for the two of us to read than the never ending column of single words (text included) 11:12:14 6/30/101 (4)
- but why not start at the top again, with all the silliness going on here... - (no text) 23:13:10 6/30/101 (0)
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    - if no matter - i love you 16:26:53 10/02/104 (0)
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- nt - Elaia 08:30:25 6/30/101 (27)
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any relation? - jodi 21:18:14 6/27/101 (2)
- Heh... - Rio 10:46:03 6/28/101 (1)
  - the difference and differance between Freidrich and Friedrich - Derrida 13:12:10 6/28/101 (0)
freedom - Rio 14:16:38 6/27/101 (0)
BGE Book Study;1-10;Drives and the Criminal - Bill 09:38:09 6/27/101 (17)
- "Dancin' with myself" - Billy Idol on the danger of the idolatry of Nietzsche (nt) 10:40:41 6/27/101 (16)
  - what about "When I think of you I touch myself"? - ...and am holding my copy of BGE??? (nt) 17:30:27 6/27/101 (15)
    - intellectual and the nature of interpretive discussions on Nietzsche (or ANY text for that matter)... - Derrida (text included) 17:59:39 6/27/101 (13)
      - is NOT a bad thing!-lose your Christian Guilt! - Kraft-Ebbing 11:57:03 6/28/101 (2)
        
        is a gift of God for us to enjoy. Its part of God's ual design he said was very good. - inkaboutit.homestead.com 09:18:52 9/03/102 (0)
        
        not that it's bad, just that it's always better with the help of others... - ...that is, with the help of other interpretations (nt) 12:49:23 6/28/101 (0)
      - Tractatus - Timothy 07:49:42 6/28/101 (7)
        
        there is no 'real' meaning or intention, only interpretation... - ...and there are no 'facts' just metaphors for metaphors; imilations, distortions, etc. (nt) 11:23:39 6/28/101 (6)
        
        Methinks that all of this is a Book Study of BGE,but in DENIAL! - Adler 11:59:34 6/28/101 (5)
        
        I would only deny that I've denied it... - ...but couldn't very well argue that yours is a mis-interpretation (nt) 12:51:10 6/28/101 (4)
        
        Isn't it amusing that the cut-price Post-Modernists who waffle on incomprehensibly about 'texts' and 'interpretation' are AFRAID to partake in the Book Study of 'Beyond Good and Evil';-they suspect no doubt that their own shop-soiled veiws will be blasted to smithereens by the torch of the Will to Power!--Cowards one and all!! - Bill 11:15:08 6/29/101 (3)
        
        isn't it a weak Nietzschean who would want such a post-modern interlocuter in the first place... - ...and isn't it a lack of subtlety for me to make explicit how these points apply to BGE, after all, I simply do not care how limiting YOUR interpretation is, why do you care about mine? (nt) 14:52:41 6/29/101 (2)
        
        Boo Hoo you won't Play!--I have exposed you countless times to be a nihilist,pessimist and a decadent-get out of this site you non-nietzschean worm! - Bill 23:26:36 6/29/101 (1)
        
        I am engaging in play, just not by your rules, and I'm playing with those rules in the first place... - ...and I could argue your charges against me (but won't bother), but could you please defend yourself against my charges that your beliefs in language and truth don't constitute transcendental theology...that is, you have yet to show me the reasoning behind the idea that the insignificant miniscule creature that is man could somehow obtain 'truth' capable of being absolute and universal instead of relative to the limiting origin and nature of all of human existence...perhaps it is our arrogance that separates us from the animals and the overmen from you (nt) 10:53:25 6/30/101 (0)
      - Born to be obnoxious and OUT OF CONTROL!!! - jeremywannabe 19:46:07 6/27/101 (1)
        
        the above post is sooooo much better than the 'ignoramus ignoranti dixit... quid pro quo' found below... - ...above and below were real philosophical points, but now you've reduced me to your level...(nt) 11:25:59 6/28/101 (0)
    - Re: what about "When I think of you I touch myself"? - xerox 17:47:56 6/27/101 (0)
Crime & Punishment - Elaia 11:44:15 6/26/101 (53)
- don't even read this if your not gonna answer - Sam 01:02:16 6/28/101 (2)
  - if you really feel like putting a bullet in him then do it and quit your whining, it is only moral to follow your instincts... - ...but your doubt shows that you'd probably do better to put the bullet in your own head, as you're only angry at yourself for giving your girlfriend reason to go to another man (nt) 09:26:24 6/29/101 (0)
  - breath deeply - marc 08:00:06 6/28/101 (0)
- Re: Crime & Punishment;Fauty Logic - Bill 09:44:20 6/27/101 (8)
  - Your right - Elaia 13:37:57 6/27/101 (7)
    - There is both free will and necessity. - smb 14:58:43 6/27/101 (6)
      - found behind the teeth of a sleeping lion - Albert 00:28:32 6/28/101 (2)
        
        The lion is awake to one little problem... - smb 09:23:04 6/28/101 (0)
        
        Re: found behind the teeth of a sleeping lion - detail 08:34:46 6/28/101 (0)
      - Or is their NEITHER freedom or necessity? [discussion directly below]...here the yes-saying spirit thoroughly says NO to every option hitherto known... - ...and the artist-creator is THE yes saying spirit (nt) 17:25:40 6/27/101 (2)
        
        Ignoramus ignoranti dixit... quid pro quo. (nt) - smb 17:31:23 6/27/101 (1)
        
        but really, what about your opinion on the idea that freedom neither can nor cannot exist... - ...I mean, this is supposed to be philosophical discussion...(nt) 11:27:47 6/28/101 (0)
- will is indeed incapable of freedom... - but it is also incapable of NOT being free....that is, it is widely misunderstood (nt) 09:32:43 6/27/101 (35)
  - 'Contradictio in adjecto' ;You have yet to prove either of your contradictory ertions.Do that,then we may take you seriously. [n/t] - Bill 09:48:12 6/27/101 (34)
    - the existence or non-existence of freedom does not apply to the ultimate ontological nature of will, freedom is a human conception and nothing more, it cannot exist and neither can its negation... - p.s. I hate having explained myself, and even more, the necessity of such an explanation...(nt) 10:10:17 6/27/101 (33)
      - You say " freedom is a human conception", and therefore,"it cannot exist";you have yet to prove your dogmatic truth-umption that all human conceptions are necessarily non-existent;-or do you merely work on the basis of unquestioned truth principles?[n/t] - Bill 10:22:26 6/27/101 (32)
        
        human conceptions can have a certain utility for humans, but they cannot somehow correspond to what we think of as 'reality' in some transcendental or theological way - and the idea of freedom is relatively useful but also limiting, and it cannot be true or false, which are moral judgements and not truly capable of some ultimate empirical characteristics...that is, Beyond Good and Evil must also mean beyond true and false...(nt) 10:29:19 6/27/101 (31)
        
        Re: Any consideration that by "Beyond G & E" Nietzsche portrays similar concepts as W. Blake does with his "Heaven and Hell"? - Tim 12:50:07 6/27/101 (3)
        
        Re; Nietzsche similar concepts to W. Blake - Bill 09:13:19 6/28/101 (2)
        
        Re: Re; Nietzsche similar concepts to W. Blake - Tim 08:48:14 6/29/101 (1)
        
        Re: Re; Nietzsche, Blake and Milton - Bill 09:26:37 6/29/101 (0)
        
        1)How can you be so dogmatically sure that it is true that human concepts "cannot" correspond to reality?;2) 'Beyond Good and Evil' means BEYOND ANTITHETICAL VALUES.Those wanting to know more of this should follow the current Book Study on BGE.[see my earlier posts on sections 1-4] - Bill 10:57:20 6/27/101 (26)
        
        Why do you ume that our conceptualizations CAN correspond with 'reality'? I mean, I don't believe in Santa Claus but I've never been to the north pole, so start telling me why you believe in Santa Claus if you want a discussion...and aren't 'true and false' antithetical values? aren't they moral prejudices if taken in their traditional sense? - ...but language is a metaphor, our concepts are metaphors, they are imilations and biased distortions, why do you want them to correlate to a transcendental and theological idea of 'reality'? (nt) 16:42:42 6/27/101 (23)
        
        LANGUAGE; this is a FORM of m-communication; i.e., it DEPENDS on a m of people ACCEPTING the same meaning values for the same language symbols . -So,TRUE Post -modernists eschew language, meaning, truth etc.,--they become HYPOCRITES when they make truth statements with language. -[n/t] - Bill 10:43:01 6/28/101 (3)
        
        exactly!!! Language is just a means of communication, why do you add the theological concept of obtaining some absolute truth to it? - the postmodern point is that any 'meaning' behind language is just arbitrarily fixed in order to promote the UTILITY of the structure of language [re: the utility that is truth]...once again, language and truth are both shadows of God (unless there value is seen as mere utility and not transcendent theology of presence and ontology) (nt) 11:32:10 6/28/101 (2)
        
        The Post-Modern knack of stating the obvious means that nothing in the world is changed;Nietzsche's ideas are unscathed by your CIRCULAR arguments - Bill 12:03:03 6/28/101 (1)
        
        Nietzsche's arguments remain unscathed... - ...but your interpretation of him as absolute truth is thoroughly charred (nt) 12:53:03 6/28/101 (0)
        
        'Antithetical Values' are a FALSIFICATION of what is in REALITY a SUBLIMATION of The Will to Power;That is TRUE .As to Santa Claus I believe that this is an adaptation of the tale of Odin's Wild Hunt across the Northern skies by Christianity during the period when it revaluated Nordic Master Morality into Slave Morality.This is also True [Let the unbeliever prove it to be otherwise].ntrary]. - Bill 09:25:07 6/28/101 (18)
        
        just who is being too literal... - now please explain your belief in the Santa Claus of 'truth'...why do you believe that we CAN obtain truth, then we can have a discussion on it...(nt) 11:34:59 6/28/101 (0)
        
        A Post-Modernist suggested that the Gulf War didn't happen;are you going that route---will you tell us that the Holocaust didn't happen?---do YOU have the courage of your convictions? [n/t] - Bill 10:35:14 6/28/101 (16)
        
        the courage of my convictions... - ...I obviously don't believe the gulf war happened in the traditional kind of belief under the truth ideal, explain to me why you believe in the absolute truth of the gulf war and I will oblige to deconstruct that belief for you...(nt) 11:37:06 6/28/101 (15)
        
        No it doesn't work like that;you cannot side-step the question--'do you believe the truth that the Holocaust happened?'(n/t) - Bill 15:40:09 6/28/101 (14)
        
        I believe that the term 'holocaust' is a limited human interpretation of certain events, just as anything termed an 'event' and involving 'humans' is already an interpretation... - ...but making use of the common umptions behind language (and in this case history also) I do believe in the holocaust to a certain extent, but only while knowing that I'm making umptions in that belief for utility purposes and not able to somehow have some irrational belief in the holocaust in any absolute sense (that is, in any theological and transcendental sense) (nt) 09:15:14 6/29/101 (13)
        
        Your position isn't clear;on the one hand you do believe that there are independent events ;and therefore true events like the Holocaust,or events independent of man by billions of years like the Big Bang,or else the existence of the Dinosaurs tens of millions of years ago, which are subject to human interpretations of those events [and here we might suggest that while it is rare for a being to have objective knowledge of itself and its surroundings other than for the purpose of survival , this doesn't mean it is impossible for a being to achieve knowledge of events if they ARE in fact independent of that being; IN WHICH CASE YOU WOULD HAVE TO ADMIT THE POSSIBILTY OF OBJECTIVE [NON-HUMAN] TRUTH ]. Then on the other hand you take a Solipsistic position when you say that you are not absolutely sure if events really happened.Here you do not go as far as Berkely and suggest the world is created in our heads and does not exist outside of it ,so you cannot argue anything other than that you are 'not sure' if events are independent of experience.So you are saying two things-that the Holocaust DID happen,but our 'interpretation' is faulty [implying true events], or that the Holocaust didn't happen because there can be no absolutely true events. - Bill 10:02:10 6/29/101 (5)
        
        text - included... 10:25:45 6/29/101 (4)
        
        Re: text.You wrote that you; don't/do believe in independent events;and that, 'knowledge','events','independence','being' are not absolutely true/are true in a relative way,but that 'interpretation' is true/necessary absolutely;and that there is no objective/object or subjective/subject, but; there IS a subject ['I'],there is an object ['you']---All of which is hopelessly confused and solipsistic.It only proves that 1. you cannot have an argument/discussion without each side taking itself to be true;2.when you make a statement you aim at truth [when you use words like 'is','are','am','that',etc.,] [n/t] - Bill 11:48:03 6/29/101 (3)
        
        The 'is', 'are', and 'am' words are just those words that Heidegger puts under erasure, using them although the words are still hollow broad and meaningless...I also use these words without believing in their theological transcendental nature...and I do not believe in the absolute truth of the subject or object, but language dictates the utility of these umptions... - ...and yes, even the concept 'interpretation' is just an interpretation, it is still just an imperfect metaphor, but I use it knowing full well its limiting and imperfect nature (nt) 14:59:12 6/29/101 (2)
        
        You have well and truly disappeared up your own solipsistic fundamunt--do you realise how ANTHROPOMORPHIC your views are;you cannot even accept non-human truth-the truth that existed millions of years before the human species had even evolved! - Bill 23:31:51 6/29/101 (1)
        
        all views, opinions and truths are anthropomorphic... - ...so the human anthropomorphic 'truths' of pre-ancient history are still interpretations 10:25:29 6/30/101 (0)
        
        now it's your turn... - ...why do you think that the underlying umptions which allow language to function are somehow capable of capturing truth in an absolute sense? (nt) 09:18:36 6/29/101 (6)
        
        That language is based on metaphor etc., is obvious;so many words imitate the things they are meant to represent [onomatapeia];so many words are like codensed poems-of course.BUT POETRY SHOWS THAT IT IS POSSIBLE TO TRANSCEND LANGUAGE,and to therefore glimpse that 'truth' of which Nietzsche speaks of -the ultimate truth of Will to Power.This is glimpsed in great tragedy ;it can be glimpsed in philosophy;it can be glimpsed IN THE NON-VERBAL COMMUNICATION OF MUSIC. This sort of truth is referred to by him when he says "Truth is Ugly" [WM Bk 3].It is the NON-HUMAN aspect of existence which is TERRIFYING.That is truth,that is WILL TO POWER! - Bill 10:20:51 6/29/101 (5)
        
        but still, how can the metaphors of language transcend themselves into some absolute truth...this transcendence and absolute-ness seems too theological for me or Nietzsche... - ...perhaps Nietzsche wasn't speaking of an absolute truth where you quote him, after a

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