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Posted by David Shepard on July 04, 192003 at 12:19:39:
In Reply to: Re: Nietzsche - stupid and insane! posted by Timurlane on October 14, 192002 at 21:14:49:
Somewhere Democritus said, "you should either be, or imitate a good man."
I try to understand and to follow Nietzsche because in the example of his life, in the gift of his philosophy to mankind, he has amply demonstrated his greatness and his goodness.
Such an interesting read too!
: Thank you for your laborious nonsense. I relegate you to historical anonimity with the 10 million other pedants, and intellectual dwarfs born after Nietzsche, who tried reading him.
: -Timurlane
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: : I accuse you of being a moron, moreover an imbecill, a subjectvist, a Stoic, a metaphysician, a contradiction, a plagiariser, and a slanderer of those philosphers you yourself in fact have used or rather abused. Below are my arguments:
: : 1)I have started to doubt Nietzsche, and have found many errors and faults in his writings, or to quote Nietzsche himself in BGE 6 "It has gradually become clear to me what every great philosophy has hitherto been:...intentions in every philosphy have every time consistuted the real germ of life out of which the entire plant has grown."
: : 2)Does Nietzsche not himself claim in the same book (BGE 16) that there are no 'immediate certainties' such as Schopenhauer's "I will", Kant's "thing in itself" and Descartes "I think" but at the same time want us to believe HIS 'truth': the will to power, the Overman, the eternal reoccurrence?
: : 3) His accusation towards philosophers in genereal - ridicule the stoics for their 'live according to nature', yet de facto steal their 'eternal reocorrence' notion and base your own 'will to power' and Overman concept on Dawin's (which is at bottom stoicism mixed with empirism a posteiori) theories!
: : 4)His metaphysical critique - substitute the general Platonic-Christian notion of a 'better more perfect world' with his own - 'better and more perfect man', i.e. his Overman concept, which is metaphysical in the sense that it can neither be proved nor disapproved and that it is 'beyond'. What does he base this Overman on? Certainly not anything except a metaphysicians 'inspiration' or is it perhaps ocular evidence? And he has the nerve to call this the end of metaphysics, HAH! How much personal timidity this masquerade of a sick recluse betrays!
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: : 5) Again he ridicules Kant in BGE 11 but uses Kant's critique of sensualism on the very next page (BGE 14)! What does this tell you of a man that claim to have 'cleansed my mind of 2000 years of garbage' ?
: : 6) Dionysian/Appolonian - Why does he himself who teaches us that a philosophy is 'doomed as soon as it starts to believe in itself' insist with growing fanatism for every year the Dionysian attributes only? Was he so blind or so unaware of himself? Why didn't he rather argue for a balance of the two, a Daoist Ying/Yang, an Aristotelean 'golden mean', a 7 year olds plus(+) and minus(-)?
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: : Now that he have so easily seen through him, seen him as he really is; innocent, childish and dishonest, that he contradicts himself and his own claims we should examine the reasons why he was such an obvious imbecill?
: : Personally I am inclined towards the syphilis theory as an explanation to his insanity and stupid ramblings, although I know most of you would not agree with me. I have a new theory though, that he himself did not get infected through ual but that he inherited it from his mother through the placenta (remember his father had similar symptoms). As is the case with syphilis, it is somewhere after about 30 years that the victim reaches the tertiary state, at which neurosyphilis can cause insanity, memory loss, delusions, disorientation and so forth.
: : Reason 1) Syphilis can cause all of the mentioned illnesses that Nietzsche suffered from childhood, including the frequently mentioned eye problems.
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: : Reason 2) On July 24, 1876, at 32 years of age, (remember the mentioned time for tertiary syphilis onset was 30 years) he arrived in the city of Bayreuth to attend a festival. He experienced "a profound estrangement from all that surrounded me...It was as if I had been dreaming...'Where was I?' I recognized nothing. I hardly recognized Wagner ." (His mentor and close friend.) (Ecce Homo, pp. 90-91) Nietzsche goes on to describe how he left, went to a forest retreat, sent a curt telegram to Wagner which ended their relationship, and withdrew from the world. Isolated from other humans, he spent months splitting his mind apart and clearing it of "ten years of a trash of dusty scholarship."
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: : Dariush
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