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 Lust and Joy
Author: Ollie (213.211.185.---)
Date:   12-12-05 10:32

'Plato believed that even philosophy was a kind of sublime @!#$ and procreative drive'.
[Revaluation of All Values, book 4, section 369, paraphrase.]

Philosophy, '(amical) love of wisdom', is a sublimation/spiritualisation of amical love, that is, love of the heart, which is itself a sublimation/spiritualisation of @!#$ love, love of the sexes, erôs, lust. But lust is not the primal drive, the sacral chakra is not the lowest chakra: deeper still lies the root chakra, the root drive, the will to power. Even the amoeba has the will to power, which makes it 'eat' (assimilate) all it can and, in order to be able to assimilate even more, divide itself into several amoeba. This is asexual procreation, hence the drive thereto cannot be called lust.

Trip Fontaine's description, in The @!#$ Suicides, of Lux Lisbon devouring him like a monster with two mouths, belongs here (the word 'labium' means 'lip' and may refer to the upper and lower lips...).

'Take hold
Of what
Is true

To the hunger!'
[Death, Perennial Quest.]

The Quest for the Holy Grail, for the Stone of the Philosophers, is the sublimation/spiritualisation of love, of lust, of hunger - of will to power!

'Sublimated will to power was now the Ariadne's thread tracing the way out of the labyrinth of nihilism.'
[R.J. Hollingdale, Thus Spoke Zarathustra, introduction, section 4.]

But this leads directly to the Superman - that is, to the Mad God:

'if [...] happiness (in Zarathustra 'joy') is the feeling that power increases, that a resistance is overcome, then the Superman will be the happiest man and, as such, the meaning and justification of existence. Through continual increase of power to transmute the chaos of life into a continual self-overcoming of life and thus to experience in an ever greater degree the joy which is synonymous with this self-overcoming: that would now be the meaning of life'.
[ibid., with added emphasis.]

To experience the supreme joy, the feeling of supreme power, that is, of Godhood (see The Will to Power, section 1037), is to immediately upon consummation experience the opposite: the feeling of the greatest absence of power - the greatest fear. And thus the Superman gives a meaning to the whole circle of existence: he wills the Manifold, Becoming - his will is the will of the One Being, of God. He is like a boddhisattva: having attained Nirvana, Union with the All, he now wills Samsara - the Wheel of Time.

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