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 Re: power as a means to and from truth
Author: Sauwelios (82.93.21.---)
Date:   12-09-05 11:45

Jakob wrote:
>
> O - How can one sustain union? In union, everything is
> included. There is no more power.
>
> J - I disagree that that should be the case - rather, it is
> only power.

Yes, and there is no more power.


> The will to power is no more.

Well, as soon as the will's revelling in its newly acquired all-might is over, it perceives it has lost the power to will, and therefore, in order to be able to go on willing, it forsakes its all-might. This is why the evolution of the will to power does not stop there (the All can never attain a final state).


The
> consequence of this throught is that Trtuh is, in the end,
> equal to power. That does, however, not mean that lust and
> will are the same.

Well, lust is a type of will. A specific type, yes, so they are not synonymous, no. But lust is always will; will is just not always lust.


>
> > Both acts are under the will to power. But power is an
> > instrument to attain the awareness of itself; Truth.

Yes, and immediately when it has attained this Truth, its Godhood, wish that it had not, or might, at least, not maintain it. It then longs for untruth/duality/not-being-God.


>
> O - Yes, the feeling of power. But, as soon as it is
> attained, this awareness of power changes into the awareness
> of impotence - into fear.
>
>
> J - I disagree that that feeling whcih drives the universe to
> decompose again should be a feeling of impotence; rather the
> opposite, I should say

Yes, you should say; but do you know? Have you first-hand experience of this attainment?


; yes, It results out of the bestowing
> virtue. The universe is everything, and can not fulfill it's
> lust to truth anymore by accumulating into oneness (the
> accumulation into onneness is truth); Truth rather becomes to
> decompose and begin the process anew!

Not Truth, but Art.


>
> This is comparable to Zarathustra's bestowing virtue in the
> opening chapter.
>
>
> > Or; the universe wills to power in it's lust for truth.
> O - Yes; and then wills to power in its alethaphobia - its
> fear of truth/will to untruth (duality).
>
> The transition between eros and phobos applies only in the
> case of the Mad God, which I included because it is an
> interesting possibility - not because it is a givern reality.

Oh, it is given alright; just not to you.


>
> O - Well, in the (short) period of truth - there being no
>

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