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Posted by pjk on October 27, 192000 at 23:00:28:

In Reply to: pjk, u didn't ans. the ? -- and re the Rubicon, weell... posted by Sue on October 27, 192000 at 10:08:39:

: : : I am writing a paper and need more examples on how the Mountains and Plains are used symoblically in the book, A Farewell To Arms.
: : : I know Mountains= Good, Home
: : : Plains=War, Evil bUt I need to be able to write 500 words and I am stuck!!!


: -- pjk, some of your remarks re rivers were interesting and some were simply mistaken. None of your remarks really answered Carly's question. Supposing her ignment has to deal with mountains and plains in AFTA, then you need to address those places and symbols.

: Also, Napoleon never crossed the Rubicon; it was Julius Caesar. I don't know that Napoleon was ever famous for crossing a river, though he certainly did try to take Moscow in a futile effort that led to his downfall, as did Hitler many years later. (Just imagine what the world would be like now if Hitler and Stalin had remained allies.) Anyhow, here's some info on the Rubicon and J.C.

: "The Rubicon is a river in northern Italy, 15 miles in length, flowing from the southern slopes of the Alps eastward to the Adriatic Sea. By crossing this boundary between Cisalpine Gaul and Italy in 49 B.C. to march against Pompey, Julius Caesar committed himself to conquer or perish. Since then, use of the idiom ". . . crossing the Rubicon . . . ." has meant that a person is taking a decisive, irrevocable step." (source: Random House Dictionary)

: Looking forward to your (or anyone's) thoughts on mountains and plains in AFTA,

: Sue

Guilty as accused and this struck me while answering (or not answering) someone
else's question. My reply certainly didn't help if the ignment was specifically
to use mountins and plains as symbols of good/evil or war/peace . If anything, in
1928 when this was published, a mountain might have been seen as representing the
unobtainable or unreachable. (Think of James Hilton's Lost Horizon and
Shangri-la, but this wasn't written until 1930 or so). So i suppose you can relate
this to Frederic Henry's unobtainable idealization of both the war and his love
for Catherine. And since the opposite of the mountain would be the plain, you can
see this as representing normal human life. But these seem somewhat
slim to me. not like a river.

Julius Ceasar? When did they change that? 8-)

hth Pjk





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