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 A Response to You
Author: Catherine (---.res.east.verizon.net)
Date:   05-21-05 21:21

L. Swilley wrote:
>
> L. Swilley wrote:
> >
>
> > I stand corrected inasmuch as EVERYTHING Nick (or any
> > narrator) reports must be reported from a point in time
> > beyond all the events.( In the case of stories told through
> > letters or diary-entries, each one can provide a new
> > narrator-terminal perspective on all that has gone before:
> > The last entry is particularly definitive.) Then, beyond all
> > that is the perspective of the author.
> >
> > The narrator can tell us what he sensed (saw, heard,
> > etc.), then he can tell us how he sensed it at the time of
> > the sensing("I feared...I thought...I admired...etc."),. HE
> CAN TELL US WHAT HE THOUGHT LATER ABOUT THE SENSING
> (INCLUDING A JUDGEMENT MADE LATER OR IN THE "NOW" OF THE
> TELLING ABOUT HOW HE OUGHT TO HAVE THOUGHT OR REACTED ABOUT
> SOMETHING) then
> > he can tell us what he now thinks of what he sensed in the
> > past (e.g., your illustration of Jordan's "wan, scornful
> > mouth)..
>
> (SOME OF THESE PROBABLY OVERLAP. [THOSE DREADFUL
> SUBJUNCTIVES!])
> >
> > Does that cover all the possibilities?

I think you have covered it very well, and you seem to see it maybe better than Mary and I are trying to do it.

Then you must see, like I try to, two time frames, the one in which the story happened and the one where the narrator later tries to make it real so that when you, the reader reads them for the first time if the author does it good enough they are as real as they can ever be to you.

But always, it seems there is that perspective that the author and actually the narrator has when looking back and trying to bring it into clear focus. In reading Conrad's Nig*ger of the Narcissus, which delighted me, and afterwards the preface that I always save for last I found it Conrad had written: "My task which I am trying to achieve is, by the power of the written word to make you hear, to make you feel - it is before all, to make you SEE. That-- and no more, and it is everything. If I succeed, you shall find these according to your deserts: encouragement, consolation, fear--charm--all you demand-- and perhaps, also that glimpse of truth for which you have forgotten to ask”.

Fitzgerald reported that he admired Conrad, and I think that this is what he tried to do when writing Gatsby. He had to do it as Conrad suggested, and to do it right he needed to make it seem like it was happening "right now". But as Mary pointed out, and I am trying to do also is to tell the difference between the Nick "of the moment" and the Nick as Narrator a couple of years later. Mary seems to think that then, only then can we assess Nick completely and judge the actions he took, the things he did and the things he acquiesced to, and understand the relevance of their difference.
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