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Benjamin Rush, on the ratification of the Constitution, letter to Boudinot, July 9, 1788

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direction traffic. Mel Gibson

Business today consists in persuading crowds.
T. S. Eliot

The task of art is enormous. Through the influence of real art,
aided by science, guided by religion, that peaceful co-operation of man is
now obtained by external means-by law courts, police, charitable
institutions, factory inspection, etc.-should be obtained by man\'s free
and joyous activity. Art should cause violence to be set aside. And it is
only art that can accomplish this.
Leo N. Tolstoy