The former post was off topic and was removed as it was a violation of our
Great Books spirit.

These forums are being phased out & replaced. Join us at our new
registration-only forums at:

jollyrogerwest.com Great Books forums,
Philosophy Forums,
and booksliterature.com Great Books forums.

Please respect that these are Great Books sites. We far prefer
discussions along the following
lines:

LXXXVIII



When thou shalt be dispos\'d to set me light,

And place my merit in the eye of scorn,

Upon thy side, against myself I\'ll fight,

And prove thee virtuous, though thou art forsworn.

With mine own weakness, being best acquainted,

Upon thy part I can set down a story

Of faults conceal\'d, wherein I am attainted;

That thou in losing me shalt win much glory: 

And I by this will be a gainer too;

For bending all my loving thoughts on thee,

The injuries that to myself I do,

Doing thee vantage, double-vantage me.

  Such is my love, to thee I so belong,

  That for thy right, myself will bear all wrong.

 	--William Shakespeare

XXI



So is it not with me as with that Muse,

Stirr\'d by a painted beauty to his verse,

Who heaven itself for ornament doth use

And every fair with his fair doth rehearse,

Making a couplement of proud compare\'

With sun and moon, with earth and sea\'s rich gems,

With April\'s first-born flowers, and all things rare,

That heaven\'s air in this huge rondure hems.

O! let me, true in love, but truly write,

And then believe me, my love is as fair

As any mother\'s child, though not so bright

As those gold candles fix\'d in heaven\'s air:

  Let them say more that like of hearsay well;

  I will not praise that purpose not to sell.

 	--William Shakespeare

There are two kinds of people: those who say to God, \'Thy will be done,\' and those to whom God says, \'All right, then, have
it your way.\'
C. S. Lewis

Henry David Thoreau
If you have built castles in the air, your work need not be lost; that is
where they should be. Now put foundations under them.