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O, thou art fairer than the evening\'s air
Clad in the beauty of a thousand stars.
-Faustus, 1604

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Paul Cezanne

XLII



That thou hast her it is not all my grief,

And yet it may be said I loved her dearly;

That she hath thee is of my wailing chief,

A loss in love that touches me more nearly. 

Loving offenders thus I will excuse ye:

Thou dost love her, because thou know\'st I love her;

And for my sake even so doth she abuse me,

Suffering my friend for my sake to approve her.

If I lose thee, my loss is my love\'s gain,

And losing her, my friend hath found that loss;

Both find each other, and I lose both twain,

And both for my sake lay on me this cross:

  But here\'s the joy; my friend and I are one;

  Sweet flattery! then she loves but me alone.

 	--William Shakespeare

Founding Fathers Quotes

And it is no less true, that personal security and private property rest entirely upon the wisdom, the stability, and the
integrity of the courts of justice.
Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833