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LVI



Sweet love, renew thy force; be it not said

Thy edge should blunter be than appetite,

Which but to-day by feeding is allay\'d,

To-morrow sharpened in his former might:

So, love, be thou, although to-day thou fill

Thy hungry eyes, even till they wink with fulness,

To-morrow see again, and do not kill

The spirit of love, with a perpetual dulness.

Let this sad interim like the ocean be

Which parts the shore, where two contracted new

Come daily to the banks, that when they see

Return of love, more blest may be the view;

  Or call it winter, which being full of care,

  Makes summer\'s welcome, thrice more wished, more rare.

 	--William Shakespeare

Founding Fathers Quotes

Do not fire unless fired upon. But if they want a war let it begin here.
Captain John Parker, commander of the militiamen at Lexington, Massachusetts, on siting British Troops (attributed), April 19,
1775

Founding Fathers Quotes

Besides, to lay and collect internal taxes in this extensive country must require a great number of congressional ordinances,
immediately operation upon the body of the people; these must continually interfere with the state laws and thereby produce
disorder and general dissatisfaction till the one system of laws or the other, operating upon the same subjects, shall be
abolished.
Federal Farmer, Antifederalist Letter, October 10, 1787